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GMTV 3rd Feb 1995
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On the third of February GMTV had some sort of Star Trek special, and had
interviews with several stars of Trek in various places. It's on quite early
in the morning, so just in case you missed it, i've jotted down the main
interviews, hope they are of interest. Many of the interviews were
interspersed with clips from Generations, but i've just omitted those.
Part 1: William Shatner being interviewed at a ranch/equestrian centre in L.A.
by Fiona Phillips.
FP = Fiona Phillips WS = William Shatner
FP: So what was it like dealing with the death of Kirk?, he's been with you
for so long, did you find it at all traumatic?.
WS: It was very emotional, unexpectedly so because i'd lived with the idea for
several months from the beginning to when we started filming. But the closer
we got to filming the more I realised how momentous this was and
erm...unfortunately as happens in fact rather than in fiction it became anti-
climatic because we filmed the ending and I thought 'Well I'm very happy with
it'. It was horrendous physical conditions in the locations and we finished,
shook hands, hugged each other Patrick and I, and other members of the cast
and the crew, and said goodbye, and three weeks later, we were back at the
same location re-shooting the ending. So, it was, it was like walking, saying
goodbye i'm outta here, walking into a closet and then having to open the door
and say well i'm leaving now.
(Snippet of Patrick Stewart at some bash talking to the press)
Patrick: We had a wonderful time, largely I recall laughing most of the time
that I was with Bill and the work was just grand.
(End of snippet)
FP: Rumour-mongers though spoke of intergalactic sparks between the two
captains on set. But actually you got along very well didn't you?.
WS: Oh he's a wonderful guy.
FP: Yeah, and can you tell me, I did hear some very strange rumours about you
and pantyhose, we call them tights in Britain.
WS: Tights?.
FP: Tights yeah.
WS: Really?, you don't call them pantyhose?. The word pantyhose is so much
better than tights. Yeah well Patrick has an affinity to pantyhose, I tried to
talk him out of it erm.....
FP: You talked him into it I heard.
WS: Oh?, I talked him into it?, well maybe it was, I talked him into the
pantyhose, and he told me that his reputation as a distinguished Shakespearean
actor was at stake, but he prefered to wear the pantyhose, which was designed
to save his legs from chaffing on a horse.
FP: I'm glad you explained that.
WS: Yes, actually I think he rather enjoyed the chaffing.
(Snippet of George Takei from a studio in Los Angeles)
George: Bills approach seems to be to suppress others and focus solely on
himself.
(end of George Takei snippet)
FP: George Takei, Nichelle Nichols have said some uncomplimentary things about
you in their books.
WS: I know.
FP: You were with them, you know, on and off for 25 years.
WS: Uh huh.
FP: So how did you react to that?.
WS: With love, I embrace them in their madness and er wish them well. I think
what they were doing was selling books, and I hope they do, but they're
wonderful people.
(END OF WILLIAM SHATNER INTERVIEW)
Part 2: In the GMTV studio, Marina Sirtis and Jim Davidson being interviewed
by Eammon Holmes.
EH: Eammon Holmes MS: Marina Sirtis JD: Jim Davidson
EH: Well, who knows how a Trekkies mind works?, well Counsellor Deanna Troi
for one. She's the shrink who boldly goes into her colleages minds, and you'd
have to be bold in Star Trek the New Generation.
(note: the above was not a typo but exactly what Eammon said)
Actress Marina Sirtis has made the part her own, which you can see next week
in the new Star Trek: Generations movie. We've beamed her in to analyse the
inner workings of Jim Davidsons mind here this morning, and there is a
connection to all of this because......
MS: Oh!, you didn't tell me I had to do that!.
JD: Won't take long.
MS: Thats definately somewhere where no-ones gone before I think.
EH: Not only is Jim a huge Star Trek fan, but its a small old universe as they
say, because you two have worked together in the past?.
JD: After you...
MS: Well, I was a guest on Jims, I tried to be a guest on Jims show, Up the
elephant and round the castle. When I managed to get a line out, when I wasn't
laughing so much. He was fine in rehearsal and then of course as soon as there
was an audience there, he drives into top gear, and I was, you know, on the
floor in a puddle of laughter.
EH: Listen, you've had the last laugh, 'cos I reckon this man is very envious
of you now, whats shes doing, dream come true?.
JD: I'm very very pleased, well, I dunno about dream come true, i'm a big Star
Trek fan, and not just because, i'd just like to say theres lots of Star Trek
fans that are not fans because its Star Trek, but because it is so good you
become a fan, and if it wasn't good I wouldn't be a fan. I just think it's
excellent, and I remember about episode 3 thinking 'I know that girl, I happen
to know that girl' then it clicked and I thought 'Oh my god!' and that was it.
MS: Ahhhhhh
JD: There you are, congratulations.
MS: Thankyou.
JD: I think its great, it is just a brilliant series, its well written init?,
i mean, how many scripts do you get through to actually get to that last
little bit.
MS: What do you mean how many scripts do we get through?.
JD: Well how many re-writes do you have to do?.
MS: Well, we didn't see all the re-writes, we would get a preliminary script,
like er, about a week beforehand, and then we would get the final script but I
don't know how many, and then of course the script would end up to be multi-
coloured, because as re-writes come in they go in as different colours, so you
know.....
EH: Like the uniforms, they're all, what is this?, you've what?, a blue
uniform?.
MS: I have lots of uniforms.
EH: Whats the significance with the colours?.
MS: Er, well, er, now i've got to get this right 'cos otherwise the Trekkers
will kill me, okay red is command.
EH: Yeah.
MS: Yellow is engineering and the greeny, tealy blue is science.
EH: Excellent.
JD: The ones with the holes in is Ariel Ultra.
(Ahem, I think you meant Persil Power actually Jim)
EH: Well, lets put them all together and lets see a clip of Marina here in the
movie Generations.
(Gratuitous Generations clip number 1,000,000,004)
JD: There was a scene in the film you know, you showed early on on the
horseback, with William Shatner and Patrick Stewart and my wife said
'Constable......that shot looks exactly like its a Constable painting)
MS: Yeah, we really tried, David Carson who's also British.
JD: Excellent isn't he.
MS: Our director.
JD: Of course.
MS: It was like a little British club there, erm, we really wanted to make it
looked visually like an epic feature film. I sometimes felt, not to take
anything away from the original cast, but I sometimes felt that their films
just looked like a two hour episode on the big screen. but we really wanted to
make an epic film and thats why the look of the film is really extraordinary.
EH: Tell me about the British thing, your voice is so different in real life
to the character.
MS: Yeah, actually i've been there 8 years, and no-ones ever wanted to hear
this voice. No, no, not that voice, Troi's voice, that voice, yeah.
EH: Well, how're you going to deal with, er Marina, the fact you know this
part will be with you for the rest of your life. No matter what else you do,
people are gonna have this intense interest in you and all things Star Trek.
MS: So wheres the bad part?.
EH: Thats good?, you're happy with that?.
MS: Yeah, because like Jim said, fans are fans because the shows good, I mean
10% of the fans are the ones possibly who dress up and are Star Trek fanatics,
erm but basically, people always ask me "so what are you doing next, and what
else, tell us when you're gonna do something else", so its almost like you've
got this built-in audience, that will watch whatever you do.
JD: I think, in fact, also its so well written and its so well cared for by
the actors, especially Patrick. I don't know Patrick, but you can tell that he
cares about the lines. I heard him in an interview saying a lot of people sort
of base their lives on the basic Star Trek philosophy. Which is, you know,
good will always triumph, erm, I pick up little things all the time.
EH: Values?.
JD: Yeah, little values and stuff, its good.
EH: He is a very nice man, he's been in here, he's a very down to earth guy as
well, he comes across as quite a stern character on screen.
MS: No, he's not a stern character, he's a very sill man actually. He started
off quite serious in America, but then after, you know, 7 years with a bunch
of loony actors he actually loosened up considerably. But I have to say, I
think that probably the success of the show, I mean I think 50% of it at
least, has to be laid at Patricks door, because he has so much integrity, and
he wouldn't just do it for the sake of doing it. He was really concerned that
we would produce the best product that we possibly could.
EH: Jim, what about the final product here, Generations the movie. It might be
a wee bit confusing to people who're not into Star Trek, seeing clips of the
old series today, and the Next Generation and this movie. It's the bringing
together of the old and the new in this one?.
JD: Yeah, yeah it is, its bringing together the old and the new, which
everyone has wanted to do, of course. But I think the movie stands up in its
own right. If you haven't been watching Generations, first of all where have
you been?. I mean New Generation, Next Generation (points at Eammon), you got
me at it now!, i'm all tongue tied..... and the movie will be a good starter
for someone. If you've not seen the series, go and see the movie, then go and
buy the series. If you haven't got a dish, go and get one, or right, go and
buy the series, you can get 'em, get 'em all. I've got rooms of 'em.
MS: I'm gonna hire this person, what are you doing?.
JD: No, it really is good, I mean for instance okay, you can see that theres
money thrown at it, perhaps not in wages, but I mean, its mixed in Dolby
surround, you don't get in television series. I remember that television
series we did, Up the elephant and round the castle, and typical British sit-
com, you walked down the stairs and a big shadow follows you dosen't it?, big
black monster shadow because its not lit properly.
EH: Not in this building, no, no, not at all.
JD: I mean its just, it really is well done.
EH: Listen, would you go up to that exhibition we saw Stephen Jardine at in
Edinburgh there, all the paraphernalia and the reconstruction of the
Enterprise....
MS: Is that tommorrow?.
EH: Yes, it starts this weekend.
MS: Yeah i'm there tommorrow, i'm in Edinburgh tommorrow.
EH: Would you go Jim?, would you be interested in seeing it?.
JD: Yeah, eah, course theres the big one at the Albert Hall.
MS: The convention this weekend.
JD: Convention at the weekend.
EH: And you're off to some big convention in Malta as well?.
MS: In Malta in May, yes, its this weekend i'm really exited about because I
remember the last time I went to the Albert Hall I went to see Sting, and you
know I had to park 3 miles away, you know, and walk to the Albert Hall. I'm
walking there with my friend Jan and I said "God, can you imagine, all these
people are going to see him", and now, all those people are going to see us,
and i'm just like......(puts her hand on her chest).....really exited.
JD: Can I tell you something as well, just briefly, they could have sold that
out for a month, thats how popular it is i'm telling you, 'cos I got involved
with the production of it as well, and it's just phenominal because it is so
good, you can't beat talent, and you can't beat excellence, really.
(Marina cuddles up to Jim)
MS: Ahhhhh
EH: Well, it sounds to me Jim as if you could lead the life okay and just
before we leave you, just to make you think what Jim Davidson would look like
on board the Enterprise.....There you are....
(picture of enterprise crew appears on screen with a cut out of Jim Davidson
in with them).
(laughter)
EH: Which ones him?.
JD: Thats me, thats it now. If Frank Bermans watching this morning, I look
better with a bit of make up.
EH: Well, both of you, live long and prosper, thankyou very much indeed for
talking to us this morning.
MS: Thanks.
(END OF THAT INTERVIEW)
Part 3: Patrick Stewart interviewed in Dorchester hotel room by Lorraine
Kelly.
PS: Patrick Stewart LK: Lorraine Kelly
Lorraine Kelly materialises on a chair in a pathetically sad GMTV attempt to
mimick a transporter.
LK: Are you pleased with the film?, pleased to meet William?.
PS: Oh yes, i'm very pleased, and I was really nervous about it, I wasn't even
sure at the beginning that I wanted to make a movie of the Next Generation. I
was very very proud of the series and overall the work that we'd done for
seven years and I didn't want to swallow that by making a second rate movie.
I'm pleased with it, and i'm now even quite optimistic about what we could do
with a subsequent movie.
LK: Well good, so its not the end then because so many people thought, well
thats it.
PS: I'm surprised at that, everybody here talks about that this is the movie,
marks the end of the Next Generation. On the contrary, in the United States
everybody seems to have accepted that this will be the first of a series of
movies, as it was with the original cast.
(Generations clip)
PS: There have been certain er er tensions between the original cast and
ourselves at different times. Bill had allegedly made certain remarks when the
series opened that were somewhat unflattering and so forth. So he gave us an
opportunity to get over all of those things and to get to know one another and
found him to be absolutely delightful and charming and funny, which is
goodness knows the most important, or at least in my book, individual)
(Snippet from earlier William Shatner interview, the pantyhose bit)
PS: I was very happy to be straight man to Bill, Captain Kirk.
LK: You also were voted something like the sexiest man in the whole universe,
is this something you get all sort of embarrassed about or do you think its a
great honour?.
PS: No I don't get embarrassed about, no I don't think its a great honour,
erm, and I don't think it was quite as extensive as the universe, I think
that....
LK: Oh surely...
PS: I think the er, voting pool was a little bit smaller than that, although
should there be any candidates for universe then i'm happy to have my name put
forward. Yes it was delightful, it was charming, unexpected, and er very nice.
LK: But is the TV series, is that over and done with now?.
PS: It is yes, we wrapped the T.V. series after 7 years late last March.
Ironically, the very last line that I spoke on the TV series on the camera was
"Does this mean anything at all?", was the very last thing I said in the
series.
(END OF PATRICK STEWART INTERVIEW)
Part 4: Nichelle Nichols interview. Nichelle in studio in Manchester, Jim
Davidson, Lorraine Kelly in GMTV studio.
NN: Nichelle Nichols JD: Jim Davidson LK: Lorraine Kelly
LK: Nichelle, how are you doing, Nichelle Nichols its lovely to see you.
NN: Hello, thankyou.
LK: You're looking great, you're looking so well.
NN: I'm delighted to be here.
LK: Tell you what though, major dissapointment, 'cos you're not in this new
film.
NN: I'm sorry?. (fiddling with earpiece)
LK: You're not in this new film which is a shame.
NN: Well, we've done six major motion pictures with the original cast, and I
regard this as Star Trek 1:The Next Generation.
LK: Right, sure, Star Trek obviously always was way ahead of its time and its
strange now when we look back to think that there was such a fuss over the
fact that you know, you were a black actress in a series like that.
NN: Yes, the first.
LK: Then the huge fuss there was over the fact that you actually kissed
Captain Kirk, which seems.....
NN: I think he kissed me too.
LK: I bet he enjoyed it as well, he certainly looked as if he did. Lets just
take a look at that, I think we've got a clip of it, here it is.
(Clip of Uhura's kiss with Kirk)
LK: I was watching that episode on video just the other day I was, thats
great, Nichelle, but it does seem strange you know, the fact that there was
such a fuss over that, and you did have quite a struggle as well. I remember
they used to like, hide your fan mail and things like that, it was quite
difficult for you.
NN: No it was not difficult for me, as a matter of fact I wasn't even
concerned about it in terms of it being a kiss. I didn't even know it was the
first inter-racial kiss, we were so comfortable with one another that it just
felt natural, and then suddenly there was all of this er..
concern because they suddenly realised that this would be the first inter-
racial kiss on television and erm, so I let them work that all out while I was
making a police report for my stolen jewellery. I'd just gotten married, my
diamond rings had been stolen, my wedding rings had been stolen, so I was
making a police report, and crying in the dressing room and they got it all
together and then I wrapped up my tears and came out and kissed Captain Kirk,
and he kissed me and er, and then we got the most fan mail that we had ever
recieved, and all of it was positive.
LK: It certainly was, and good for you, like we said, well well ahead of its
time. Now, we've got Jim Davidson here who is a huge fan.
NN: Hi Jim, yes, so i've heard, its nice to see you.
JD: Hiya, welcome to England, theres another kiss about to happen here in your
book as well. (holds up and points at a photo in Nichelles book).
NN: Yes, thankyou, i'm here in England promoting the release of my
autobiography 'Beyond Uhura', on Boxtree, and er, i've been all over the
place, London and Liverpool and Manchester and now Birmingham at WHSmiths
today and then popping back to London at the books etcetera this evening, and
then at the Albert Hall tommorow with this Star Trek convention to sign my
books.....
LK: Oh thats right..
NN: and the turnout has been magnificent, the Star Trek fans have been around
the block er...coming to greet me and for me to sign the book to erm, its a
lot of fun.
LK: It's great Nichelle, what do you think though, is the fact that, why has
Star Trek been so succesful?, and so dearly loved by so many people?.
NN: Oh I think Gene Roddenberry was such a genius in bringing an inter- racial
cast of women and men as equals, travelling through the galaxies on peaceful
exploration. It was such an incredible concept, at a time when we were in the
middle of the Vietnam war, right smack in the middle of the civil rights
movement, the cold war with Russia and so there was a lot of empathy and fear
in the world including nuclear annihilation. And suddenly, here on television
were a cast of people in the 23rd century that not only said we didn't blow
ourselves up, but we were all here represented, and we're better people for
it.
LK: Certainly are, Nichelle, it's been a pleasure talking to you and I know
that people will turn up in their droves at your book signings all over the
country, thankyou very much indeed.
NN: Well tell them, all hailing frequencies are still open. Thankyou, its been
nice being with you.
(INTERVIEW ENDS)
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*Thats the lot people, I hope it was of at least a passing interest to some of
you, if not then er...oh well, I only spent ages on them. If anyone else out
there has any recent taped interviews, why not do the same as i've just done,
type them out, and send them along to me.